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Are you up or down lifetime from gambling?

Discussion in 'General Vegas Talk' started by vegasmeister, Apr 26, 2016.

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  1. thefish2010

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    For life, I'm down several million dollars. Had some cool experiences though, and if you take into account the retail rates of villas and stuff I've probably had more than $1 million in comps. The last few years I've toned it way down on a per trip basis, but even then the losses have been substantial due to a 5 1/2 year losing streak - all losing years, and indeed almost all losing trips. I'm technically a pretty big winner at slots, because that is where I'll use any freeplay I get if I have the option to. I'm probably +$50k over the last 5 years on them (the places that give me the most slot freeplay aren't in Vegas anyway, so I'm not sure if that counts for this discussion). But that's a drop in the ocean relative to table losses, and it's only because I immediately cash in as soon as I've passed all of the freeplay through.

    AP's aside, anyone that has been playing in casinos a while is going to be down. That's just how it works.
     
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    You can actually find this info on a per-property basis right on their site. Make sure you're logged into Mlife. Then go to:

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    Where 1999 is the year you want the info for. It will all appear, very nicely formatted for you. Even though the main site tells you that you can only get the info for 7 years, you can go back as far as they have records on you using this URL.
     
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    Fun. It's gotta be fun, whatever we're doing! Hell, I cost my parents a fortune, they didn't try to send me back. Maybe they had fun.
     
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    If ony it would work for me...lol. It use to up to a few years ago then I get an error message now. They do email me a copy if I ask though.
     
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    Really? I literally just did it and it worked. I pulled up records going back to 1997 just now. This is a new URL, not the old one that used to work and doesn't anymore.
     
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    Do you believe - all these guys lifetime up at blackjack? Not including any team card counting - solo play only. Does it count if you win because you negotiate loss rebates well?

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    You have to sign in first. Then open a new tab and go to that URL.
     
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    Yes, you can count cards, hole-card, find biased roulette wheels, and take advantage of loss rebates and win, but you'll spend most of your casino career being barred and otherwise mistreated. That's not what most of us want from our Vegas escapades. Most of these guys can't set foot in casinos in Nevada and many other jurisdictions. Some have had plastic surgery to alter their appearance enough to try to continue their career. In casinos, you can win the battle, but you'll always lose the war.

    The only ones in this group that really have a good lifestyle from gambling are Bill Benter and Zeljko Ranogajec. They don't play against the house; they use algorithms to beat horse racing pools at a massive scale, and a big part of their success comes from working with racetracks, not against them, negotiating large rebates on their total handle. They are also by far the richest of the bunch.
     
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    I have a system error. Its just my account. My friends account works. It crapped out a few years ago when I got some w-2gs. I asked them about it and they just emailed me the win loss statement. But that comes from the accounting people i guess and not the sole tech guy.
     

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