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Actual Table Game Theo Numbers

Discussion in 'Comps' started by shifter, Sep 5, 2015.

  1. RockyBalboa

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    Exactly

    I've been playing craps mainly for several years and I still don't know how to calculate theo and figure it out.

    There have been times I'm rated at $225 per roll (normally I'm at $175ish) and a couple times where they had me at $80-100 despite not varying my play much. If we happen to be in a trend of PSOs sometimes I'll just place the 6-8 and a hardway or two. And if they happen to look at the layout at that moment that's what gets entered in

    As we all know tipping really helps too...as does talking to the pit before leaving
     
  2. VEGASBJ

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    Yeah Nate, you are really getting the short end in your case with poor loss tracking combined with lowering Theo earned in each game. I have not played much at Cosmo except for the time we all played craps together.
     
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    131 average 3 hrs at Cosmo for uth 238 theo.

    Basically some version of 25-50 trips with 50/50 on the other 2. No rating on th back

    I made 150% more theo at Wynn for similar play

    Cosmo is for sure weak on their theo calculator. But had a little luck. Quad 7 with ace kicker on the board
     
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  4. shifter

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    so that's 605 theo per 1000 per hour,

    which is 33% lower than the 900 number at MGM!

    that's exactly the MGM number as well.
     
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    I found a trip where I just played Let-It-Ride as my table game of the trip (it was a short trip and played more VP). Here are the numbers I got from MGM. Probably not a game that anyone else really plays but I thought I could contribute.

    6.06 hours on tables
    Avg bet $500
    $3708 theo

    Someone else can help me with the theo per hour (since I am a few cocktails in this evening). This is table max at MGM.
     
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    611 Theo per hour
    Assuming 40 hands/hour house edge would be 3.05%
     
  7. shifter

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    that's per $500 he was betting.

    so the per 1k per hour to compare with the other numbers is $1223.
     
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    These numbers for my bj play at both Aria and Wynn are very accurate. I have had a bit higher comp credit on the last 2 trips that were both significant losing visits.
    I would like to see how they rate the blackjack HA % and what number they use for hands per hour. Playing heads up I am sure I am generating more theo than their system provides.
    But that is the whole point I guess. And not getting better.
    They must hate players like Nate and Shifter. Just way too much knowledge at way to high bet levels.
     
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    Which places rate odds and which places do not rate odds on dice? Anybody know?
     
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    GEEZERS (cet) rates not only odds but every Penney you have on the table. Everyone else doesn't.
     
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