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Wynn before and after

Discussion in 'Vegas Trip Reports' started by Malibugolfer, May 23, 2016.

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  1. Malibugolfer

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    I had not gone to Wynn for several months, been at Aria for better gambling.
    I was at Wynn last week and have finally come to fully accept the transformation.
    The 2X floor odds and comp reductions were just the start. All have now given way to a significantly altered casino floor.
    When Wynn first opened there were bj pits all the way from the Pai Gow at the TS walkway, around the corner at the B Bar and down 1/2 way to Parasol Up.
    Gone are most replaced by carny games and a few h17 3/2 at $50 to $100. Lots of new roulette. 00 of course.
    Several 6/5 of course on the floor.
    S17 only in the HL rooms.
    I usually play $150-$400 a hand total bet. I have been playing 3 handed which was never a problem at Aria.
    I was on the floor when I first arrived since I didn't want to max bet initially. $75 3 handed on a $50 h17 table.
    The pit gave me shit for it, saying it had to be $100 for each hand but they'd "let me" play. On a $50 h17 game.
    Later I go over to Encore HL to see my favorite dealer who's been there for years.
    She's now on the floor at the $100 h17 DD, which was fine for me. Not so much for her I think.
    Golf course may be done as of September and there were lots of new faces everywhere except Tableau where Maria was great to see.
    It appears to me the new business model is the whole brand is now a destination resort with food, clubs, entertainment etc. just like NYC or LA or Paris etc. Oh, with gambling available as an adjunct, but a far, far less centered activity going forward.
    Food was good though.
     
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    Wynn made you double the min to play 2 hands on the main floor as long as I can remember..
     
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    Most places make you double the MIN when you play two or more hands on the floor. In HL they don't give you any flack about it. I try not to play on the floor at Wynn/Encore.

    Wynn/Encore still treats me better than Aria. I don't know why I ever go back to Aria.

    Sad to see the golf course go at Wynn but it is what it is.

    I'm not a fan of the 2X but I don't play craps in Vegas. I'm too use to 100X odds in Shreveport.
     
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    Geoff, I have always played max 2 hands and at $100 each which would explain why they had a problem with 3 hands at 1.5 times table minimum.
    I later asked Grace in Encore and she said in HL or at a hundy they don't care. I played $100 X 3 hands at her DD that was $100 minimum. Pit didn't care either.
    I was obviously spoiled at Aria. Maybe it's all VegasBJ's fault for getting me hooked on 3 handed.
     
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    With S17 in HL why would you play on the floor?

    I hate H17.
     
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    pp, because I initially didn't want to be betting more than $250 or so at a time and have been enamored with 3 hands.
    I ended up at 3 hands at $150 each anyway when I went over to Encore HL before playing the DD with my preferred dealer on the floor. So much for the $250 maximum on the felt total per deal. You know how that goes.
    The DD was h17 but that is more common in W/E. Aria had s17 DD floor and HL. I know your Aria story and I still prefer Wynn in most respects anyway.
    Love the TS pools and walking room to golf really spoils one. Or spoiled now.
     
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    Yeah, I usually pay $50-100 at Aria, 2-3 hands at a time, and have never been told I had to pay more than the minimum on each (though I always make it clear that if more people want to sit down, I'll play fewer hands, since I hate taking up seats that other players would want to use when it's busy). Aria also has no problem rating me for both me and my girlfriend's play, especially when they know she's playing on my bankroll, whereas Caesars and Wynn both refused.

    The only place I'd disagree with you is on this being a "new business model" for Wynn. They've viewed gamblers as a commodity, and secondary to the resort business, for a while. Hell, it's pretty much the only place in the entire town that doesn't comp drinks at VP bars. I think part of it is that unlike pretty much every other Vegas resort, Wynn opened with luxury dining and best-in-town clubs, so they've been able to rely on that from the beginning in a way that other properties never quite could. They want the high-rollers for sure, but they'd much rather give up the low-to-mid rollers in place of the nightclub spend.
     
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    Ha ha
     
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    I would say that Wynn is losing some of those high rollers with limits and the craps tables. Also the removal of the golf course would be the final straw for me, doesn't make them competitive in my eyes with other properties unless I want to bring 5m and get one of those special villas (not fairway).
     
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    Hi Malibu, like pp said and sorry to be redundant but the rule you have to double the min for multiple hands has been around for 50 years. GEEZERS had always made us double min from way way back. And yes high limit doesn't care at all how much you bet on multiple hands. For me the Wynn is reminding me of how the Venetian changed from a casino hotel to a convention hotel. I personally haven't been affected by any lack of comps at wynn. I hate the 2x but find myself playing there from time to time when nobody is playing at the high limit table which is really quite common. Golf course going bye bye is a deal breaker for me. Will I stop going to wynn? I just don't know til GC closes. Everything else about the Wynn is great. Pool, food, service, most dealers and TS is top notch. I can tell you this, the next 4 trips this year will be at Aria. See you there in July!
    Malibu, let's get out soon!
     

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