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Winning trips and budget impact

Discussion in 'General Vegas Talk' started by Jinx, May 19, 2016.

  1. Jinx

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    This is a question I've always wondered about, for those that have grown into larger players over time, do you find it easier to book winning trips, then you did when you had a more limited gambling budget? I understand the losing trips can even those winning trips out pretty quickly, given the higher stakes, but I am curious as to what impact our bigger players feel their budget has on their ability to win.

    My trip budget has grown over the years, and if I wasn't so intent on some years taking 4 trips of at least 5 days and stretching a budget, I suppose my avg bet would have increased too (for the most part it hasn't). Add in the fact, that I've realized with my size budget that playing VP or slots with a good % of it, continues to ensure my comp rooms and some minor perks, and overall I find it rare for me to have a winning trip. However, that also takes into account that there is a fair amount of out of pocket expenses that come out of my budget over a 5-6 day trip, which aren't as impactful on larger budgets (or a comped player).

    Anyway, just curious to what everyone's experience has been. I do wonder sometimes if I could really just focus my gambling on say Double Deck blackjack for a trip and increase my avg bet, that I would be able to see some different results on how my trips play out, but again I'm not sure.
     
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  2. DaaaaaaBears

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    I'm not one of the larger players you're referring to, but my daily bankroll has increased at least 25x over the last 10 years. It has had no effect on my ability to book a winning trip. My average bet has increased and I still try for a home run every time. I'm just trying to hit it farther out of the park than I ever have before.
     
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  3. Hobofrank

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    I recently changed both my avg bet and session (not BR) roll.
    used to be I'd break off no more than $300 in my pocket and roll up to the dice or BJ table.
    unless I was really lucky or went crazy betting greens at BJ?...i'd always run out of bullets and tap out


    Now? I take $1000 to the table (yeah I'm frugal..what part of HOBO confused you?)
    and bet black chips at BJ and have between $150-250 on the dice table per "hand"

    I do and have booked more winning trips yearly, HOWEVER?...TWICE A YEAR?
    yeah I beat myself senseless and come home with only one red chip and a matching red face:mad:
     
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    I have found that I have had way more success with a larger Vegas BR. I was a low roller then and now bigger low roller.

    Back in 90's I used to always buyin for $60-$100 at a table and just hope for the hot streak to hit quick. BR then was usually 1k ish. Always felt like I could not risk much to ensure enough money for incidentals while in town. Starting bets at table minimums. Never seemed to win much on a good run, and typically ended in a slow death.

    I now gamble with higher starting base bets and this allows me to double my buy in and color up with a positive impact to the BR. Back when I was playing the minimums I could double my buyin, but this was not enough of a win to really stop, and eventually the HA beats me down after a long session.

    Now with a bigger BR , I am betting $25-$50 base bets(to a max $200 on a streak) , it has produced some $500+ wins in a short session. Do this a couple times, and I have a great chance of leaving town in the green.

    I am conservative (gambling only) so if I am up a few grand on the trip, I will lock in the win and finish my trip playing max bet 25 cent low variance VP and getting drunk and or just partying.

    To conclude, if I have less than 1k and I am in Vegas, I am just giving it to the house for entertainment, and not really there to win.
     
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  5. Jinx

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    nice feedback, appreciate it.
     
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    I bankroll about 8x what I used to when I first started coming to Vegas...and yeah - it makes a difference because of variance-survivability.
    We all have a bad run(s) during a trip. With limited BRs, a single bad run can tap you out.
    I protect myself now - I use ATMs as my self-imposed bankroll discipline tool. I bring about $1000 in cash & use ATMs to finance the rest of my gambling (if needed).
    My bet size has gone from $5 or so in the 80s, to green-chips in 90s...and now back to about $20 average per hand of blackjack.
    So - inflation adjusted, my bet-size hasn't changed all that much... but because I survive better against negative variance now, I have far more winning trips than I used to.
     
  7. Hoofy7

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    Back in the day when we had a lot more money I had a much larger bankroll than I do now. I didn't find myself winning any more than I do now...it just took me longer to lose it. Lol I play slots and am probably the least lucky person ever....I rarely get handpays in fact it's been almost 2 years since and I max bet almost everything I play other than HL slots.
     

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