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Verbalizing about Players in Baccarat

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by GlenBaccarat79, Jul 31, 2016.

  1. GlenBaccarat79

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    Here is an example, happens in many various scenarios of the game. Strong, weak, streaks, etc., usually not many shoes go by where someone isn't verbalizing about what it should do, did or is upcoming with the next hand. The times they are correct is like jet-fuel to the players and the other times, well-let's just say really didn't change much. What sucks, is when any of the others were clearly influenced by that player verbalizing his thoughts.

    Here is a shoe from the other night. A solid 30 hands into an almost perfect trend/bias. 5 single chops then 5 doubles. A fortune 7 with it being a single Banker. Ten 5 more doubles. Then a single Banker. Then 4 chops. At this point, such a balanced bias/trend. A few went heavy on the 5th chop. A player that was not a regular and sometimes plays bac at this casino is there. He says, everyone go heavy--look at it, can't lose, etc. With him announcing, "I love it", I pulled my wager down as a few others did as well. Some went the opposite side, I sat there and folded my arms, shaking my head a bit. The guy was wrong, failed to make the chop, cut to the repeat and his mouth dropped open and he was visibly stunned.

    I have preached about 'sections' which most bac players really don't agree on. There seems to be a trend in bac playing since 2000 or so for the continual 'cut' or otherwise known as 'O.L.D.". IMO, 'sections; of 7-9 horizontal squares tend to prove a bias/trend more so than watching 1/2 or 3/4 or the whole card, etc. But, that is IMO and not what my point is here, just my way of thinking.

    So now, just about everyone and including the guy that announced the previous disaster is like, "going to make a run now". Everyone is on for the repeat. I am just watching, I liked it, but I know the volatility of a shoe and what generally happens in all this. And sure enough, it cut right back to what it was producing before the last hand. Everyone lost that wagered. The double-whammy I guess.

    I brought up the 'cooler dealer' before which is really unexplainable. As well as letting another turn over the cards at Midi and they constantly turn over winning hands when you are turning over consistent losing ones. Both 'quirks', etc. Maybe this is another. Happens.

    There was camaraderie and pretty darn good motivation just prior to the guy coming into the game. It was all killed and the frustration level was clearly present after that.
     
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  2. shifter

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    Especially bad is the guy the jumps into your shoe after you've won several in a row, whether chop or streak.

    He appears over your shoulder and puts down a big wager right before the cards are dealt.

    The shoe invariably switches right at that moment and everyone loses.
     
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    absolutely correct! SPOT ON! And yes, before others jump in, I am 100% aware no one changes a pre-determined outcome of the shoe. HOWEVER, and a huge however, it wrecks the mo-jo, the aura and the camaraderie of the game. I and many others have won more playing together than ever playing alone or aloof in a corner of the table, etc.
     
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    This happens a crap load of the time at the Gold Coast. They have several low denom tables, and have several regular Bacc degens that do not sit down. They just roam the 8 tables, watching for shoe patterns. Then they then drop in for a few hands based on what they see and like. This bothers a lot of people, but not me UNTIL they start chirping some of their knowledge about a can't miss trend.

    I typically reduce to my base bet and bet against them with a smart ass comment.

    House cooler!!!!
     

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