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MLB Picks from an AI Platform for 8/30/16

Discussion in 'Poker, Race & Sportsbook' started by thefish2010, Aug 29, 2016.

  1. thefish2010

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    Trust me, there is NO system or program that will make money in sports. If someone believes in that, I will personally take their action. If those are the records, that's awesome and it does happen but that is a short sampling. It will eventually even out and the vig will put the person in a hole.
     
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    There are people that bet sports professionally and make a living at it. I'm following it for fun, but so far the record is pretty good. It's very difficult to beat the vig, but to say it's impossible is incorrect. Here are 3 people that have made hundreds of millions beating horse racing through computer analysis, and it has the highest vig of all sports bets (2 of these guys have become billionaires):

    Bill Benter (billiionaire) explaining how seemingly random events can actually be predicted with a fair degree of accuracy with large enough datasets.

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    During a different presentation, he actually had to graph his positive returns on a logarithmic scale because they could not fit on a graph being shown to the audience:

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    (this is from this presentation):

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    David Walsh, who spent part of his winnings from predicting horse racing building a $200 million art museum:
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    Zeljko Ranogajec - widely believed to be the world's richest gambler, and is partners with David Walsh:
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    On just one of their plays in the US (most of their action is overseas where horse racing is biggest), as reported in the last link above, they turned a $200,000 bankroll dedicated to that project into $44 million in about 3 years (this became part of the public record because Ranogajec was actually owed an additional $6 million and sued the bookmaker taking his bets for it).

    So to say that it is not possible to beat sports is wrong. Most people lose, because they think they can "pick winners" on a hunch. That isn't possible. But with big data and the right algorithms, beating sports markets it is a mathematical certainty.
     
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    I said there is no system or program that will win. Short term it could but long term it will bite them in the ass. Dont get drawn into it for betting games.

    Ive been a winning bettor for a few years in nfl football being selective on plays. Its the only sport i bet myself for serious money.
     
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    The guys I mentioned have been doing it for more than 20 years, which is fairly long term. Benter's horse racing work has actually been widely talked about and accepted as valid by many in the academic community. Here's a math professor at UCLA that has built on some of his work, achieving an ROI of 36.73%:

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    Habibi, if you honestly think it works, go for it and i wish you good luck! No successful sports bettor will say anything unless they are they are trying to go tout after losing. Just keep that in mind.
     
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    And yes, there are winning sports bettors, they need runners and its still hard to get action in.
     
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    In my case, I have never bet sports at all before this, and I don't even really follow baseball. But the platform I pulled these predictions from is doing some interesting work in this space (not just baseball - the platform also
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    and the Stanley Cup winner this year when there were 4 teams left), and so I thought I'd share them here. Will these specific picks win? I have no idea. I only know that they have a pretty good track record, and (more importantly to me) the methodology is solid (also, the place I'm pulling them from is NOT a tout service). I'm not trying to become a tout lol.

    You've probably read at least some of my posts on here. I'm not exactly the guy trying to get people to believe in voodoo. This is a different take on analysis that may achieve a long-term mathematical edge.

    That said, I did not anticipate such a negative reaction to posting these. I thought people would enjoy following along to see if they continue to win (as I have) and I certainly don't want people thinking that I'm trying to start some kind of tout service here, so I'll delete the picks and won't post them again.
     
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    Not saying you are a tout. Has it been seen across all sports or just mlb? Just dont lead the sheep (people who dont bet sports). Im positive that this will be a losing proposition for people in the long run.

    Just becareful on what you bet on, you will hit a winning streak and will get your ass kicked. Just like a casino.
     
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    The platform has been working across a variety of sports (it's also free - they do not charge for picks and in fact publicly post their MLB picks ahead of time). For example it:

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