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Discussion in 'Comps' started by Jaydog98, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. Jaydog98

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    Hi guys, first off I'm new here but love that there is a forum for Vegas comps and hotels!

    I'm always confused with craps comps, and have some questions. What's the best way to get the most comps out of playing craps? Is it high initial buy in? Or high first bet? Do they account for odds, place, field, hard ways? Any suggestions would be great!
     
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    CET accounts for odds, nobody else does as far as I'm tracking. However even if it is considered for average bet purposes for theo purposes it shouldn't be an applicable factor. Craps has the highest human factor of the table games I would say since there are so many different ways to play and if the boss isn't paying attention a lot of bets that can possibly be missed. Best way for craps to make sure you get the most is to ask what they have for your average as you are leaving the table. Human factor so they can bump it up. Initial buy in does nothing but a high first bet could cause them to say your average is higher than it might be if they just put in an average and then don't update it.
     
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    For those places that track odds they have a lower theo formula. So the key is to check how much theo you racked up with a host after every session to reverse calculate what that formula is based on average bet.
     
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    It's all about the theo that you generate, not about how big your starting bankroll. And since the pitboss is the one rating you, chatting him or her up and makes tips when he/she is watching helps. And at the end of a session, asking for your time and avg. If the avg seems low, then say so, and usually they will adjust upwards for you, if you have a good rapport.
    But always ask at the end of your session!
     
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    definitely take a look at this thread:
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    craps is the toughest to rate by far, so it varies so much from pit boss to pit boss based on which strategy they use.

    on a full table, they can't possibly watch every bet placed by every player. so it's even more important to talk to them and make sure they know when you place bigger bets and know when you're playing the middle/carny bets, etc.
     
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    Lots of good information already posted, but I just want to chime in with a second for the chatting up the pit boss. I've found that engaging with them in a friendly way and coming off as someone who just wants to relax and have fun has resulted in better ratings for me. I check mine after every trip, and I used to get a touch low-balled before I started doing this. Now, I usually find I'm rated 5%-10% or more above my average play. Like they give you the benefit of the doubt on pressing some wins.

    This is entirely anecdotal, but I'm a big believer in the catch-flies-with-honey method.
     
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    Absolutely. Being cool with the dealers and having good back and forth with the pit and of course tipping can change the rating dramatically.

    Last trip a lot of my play at Palazzo was when it wasn't crowded so the cracking wise and joking with the crew helped my average bet out quite a bit
     
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    Thanks guys for all your advice! Sounds like it's pretty important to chat up the pit boss and always ask for my rating at the end. If I think it's low I should politely ask for a higher rating?
     
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    Yeah something like "ehhh sounds a bit on the low side" and usually they'll bump it up a bit
     
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    Totally agree. I had a four-hour session last year, and I was betting up in units when I won. $25 base bet, then $50, $75, and $100, then back to $25. Lots of tipping, lots of banter. Good vibes the whole time. I tracked myself, and my average bet probably was around $37 or so. They rated me at $50.
     

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