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Be real careful what you say at the Bac table

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by GlenBaccarat79, Jul 17, 2016.

  1. GlenBaccarat79

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    I learned it a looooooong time ago. One should be careful what you say at a table. I love the newer players coming in and talking to their girlfriend/wife or other friend standing or sitting next to them. Like the are attempting to explain the game to them. The other night, guy waits to wager until everyone's bet is down, he tells his GF, "I'm playing the opposite of them cause the table usually pays the least out". Of course you know he lost. Then he flips over a N-8. He says boldly to his GF, "that's a winning hand", LOL, of course the Banker flips over a 7 and a 2. It goes on and not just once, but many times. Just another comical aspect of the game.

    Myself, I would say, N-8 promise but no guarantee. The other with the wager opposite, I would say, let me try the other side maybe I will get lucky.

    I don't know, it's just me, I notice that definitive statements usually haunt you the majority of the times.
     
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    I just keep my mouth shut but it does amaze me what people blather on about at the tables.
     
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    Every time I start my gambling day at the casino if I utter the words," I FEEL LUCKY!" I literally lose my ass and can't win anything! Lol I just whisper to the gambling gods to please let my bankroll last the trip now!
     
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    Here's a concept I really don't understand about people.
    This happens on a poker table and table games as well.
    Players talk about other players on the table out loud as if they are not there or can't hear you. Often times in unflattering ways.

    On the one hand, maybe their comment is correct and they think they are making an intelligent comment. BUT their act itself displays complete ignorance and also displays their lack of intelligence. Baffles me.
     
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    I'd just add to this that if you are going to talk at the tables, don't assume that nobody else can understand you. I know I'm looking pretty Caucasian, but I can pick up insults in a lot of languages.
     
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  6. GlenBaccarat79

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    My original content of my post was meant at what the other players say out loud at the table in relation to the cards and their hands, etc. However, your point is spot-on! When my wife is not around, the Asians (southeast Asians anyways) figure I can't understand one drop of Viet or Laos. I caught many in their 'smiling humiliation' over some player-player handling of the cards or wagering. Should see the look in their eyes when I tell them what they said back in English with the catch all, 'you never know who might just understand your language'.
     
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    I am always amazed at how many people try to prove how smart they are by talking at a poker table..
     
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    If cards could listen, we would all be millionaires. It doesnt matter what anyone says, the cards arent changing.

    If aomeone wants to root for ir against me, i really dont care, as long as i win the right hands
     
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    Fits well within this thread, I think?

    The other night I was at one of the local casinos. There was a few of us at the baccarat table playing. Ups and downs. Got on a real nice run of 6 Bankers followed by 6 Players with some ties, then the doubles came out, 2 by 2 by 2 by 2 about 5 or 6 times. Then the chop started, a good 9 or 10 squares of alternating chops. Finally, all of us together with some great camaraderie. We kept humiliating each other into wagering more saying stuff like, 'if you chicken--go home', etc. Shoe about 1/3rd over.

    Here comes one of the regulars. Let me describe him for you so you can get a better understanding. He truly believe he can out think the shoe. Wins a few times and walks away, but the highest majority of the time, he will get wiped and then go to the ATM or cage and get more of his available funds. Most of the time, in fact the highest majority of the times, he will just lose the additional buy in. Even if he wins and wins good, somehow his mind convinces him he can 'smack' the casino and he is an advantaged player, he truly believes it---very easy to see his aura and put that together with his words.

    He flaunts his Rolex watch (fake or not, a clear flaunt), impresses some around here in the Midwest I guess but so comical. His throws out a few words here and there in some kind of British accent from England-Scotland or perhaps the Wales, like he is a scholar or something, LOL. Throws out political statements every once in awhile without many paying attention to him, when he looks at the dealer and kind of inquires why he or she doesn't answer him, they all just shrug their shoulders. Usually, like clockwork when he losses on his progressions after his routine downfall with his bankroll, the regular, 'bloody this poo-poo American casino' or else it is, 'you yanks are so under educated you can't even tell if it is daylight outside'.

    Most of the players don't even pay attention to him. Once in a while someone will engage in the banter with him and he will go off into some long drawn out dialog about his country versus America. Anyway, he is playing and as I said, we are all in the grove and quadrupled or five folded our buy-ins easily. He starts in and mumbles how he knows the cut is coming. The shoe was producing those alternating chop-chop B-P-B-P-B-P-B-P, etc., that few can flow with to prevail on their wagers. However, we were all doing it and winning. He goes, "the streaks are ready to come back". I look at the others and we give each other that smirky smile and we are all in agreement to follow the shoe and ignore 'Mr. Know It All'.

    It was just a Player so we are all up on Banker and one of the women playing says, 'Fortune Time'. Our friend with the British accent is mumbling something about 'bloody unintelligent yanks wasting their money', etc., etc. I throw up a quarter on the Fortune and every one else has either a few nickels or a quarter or two on the Fortune, except Mr. Wonderful. Player returns two monkeys and Banker has a two card 3. Mr. Wonderful, lets go with a loud 8 or 9. Player gets a 4. All the other players are shouting to the dealer for one more 4. Must of been said about 20 times in the short order by the other players, asking for a 4. Mr. Wonderful is calling for a monkey repeatedly with vengeance in fact! The dealer flips a 4. Fantastic.

    The game moves on. All chops and then a bunch of 1's and 2's until the end of the shoe. Mr. Wonderful is kind of quite. Next shoe is readied and Mr.. Wonderful let's go with his typical garbage mouth and more bad mouthing. One of the girls playing stands up and squares off on him. Basically told him to leave if he doesn't like playing there and calls him a cue-ball jerk off that is hated by most everyone in the place.

    He doesn't say anything, just acts like he is concentrating on playing. The game moves on. We are all wagering against Mr. Wonderful and we are winning like 7 or 8 wagers out of every 10 hands. At one point he notices we are wagering against him. Says something but it was lower than a mumble, guess his energy level was dropping once again. He wagers on one side and we all throw up our wagers on the other side. He slides his wager over to the side we are on and we all pull our wagers down. He looks at us and says very clearly, "so you all are wagering against me, huh"? Someone said, "absolutely cause you can't win the way you play there pal". He snickers out loud and then the dealer flops over a natural for the side he was originally on and blackjack for the side he switched to. We all broke out laughing and the girl that squared off on him actually fell out of her chair and busted out in a long drawn out laugh. I just took a sip of my coffee and when I saw the natural on the side he was on, part of that sip came up and out of my nose. Seriously, I couldn't believe it and broke out into laughter myself. Classic, best thing I seen for a long time!!! He goes bust and asks the dealer to save his seat as he walks away. The dealer doesn't and another player walks up and takes the seat. About 5 minuets later he returns. Squares off on the dealer and says he wants his seat back. Dealer refers him to the floor person. The floor person tells him, sorry it was not reserved. The game continued without obnoxious Mr. Wonderful.

    After he walked away, the floor person came over and told us, "if you guys keep this up, we will have to charge you an entertainment charge". LOL.
     
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    And, here is like a Part 2 to the above post of mine.

    The other day at the same casino. 3 people the same out of the 7 seated or so playing, full table. The lady I referred to in the above posting is a regular player at this place, Vietnamese, perfect English if she wants to speak it, usually doesn't just to mess with the people. Cute. Smokes cigarettes, never drinks when she plays. About a 8.5 on a 10 scale if you need to visualize, only her height holds her back from actually being a 10. Reddish/blonde streaks in her hair. Classy to a point. She can be a degenerate gambler if she gets mad and stubborn. Nothing to do with the massage parlor business (as so many think all Asian that play are engaged in that), she is in the restaurant business and does pretty well. A solid $4k to $5k player numerous times a week. No one can really threaten on her and she is 100% legal here. Tough if she wants to be and to the point. Generally doesn't care what others do or say unless it involves her. She is pretty spot on most of the time but can't understand two things. One, walk away when you are up pretty good, and Two, don't try to recoup past bank rolls/buy ins you lost.

    With that said, you might be able to picture her a bit clearer. We at the table playing the other day, and Mr. Wonderful is there as well. Now, bear in mind--she is the one that stood up and called this guy the 'cue ball jerk' that he really is and was acting like.

    So we are playing, she just recouped her initial loss of several thousand and was up. Until she gets up, she is always stone cold silent and straight faced. We just won a couple larger hands and hit a Fortune 7 for better than $1k each. Mr. Wonderful mumbles something along the lines of, Asian Triad wannabe about her. Saying that he knew so many in a nearby state, etc., so on and so forth. She says very clear, 'you wouldn't know a Triad member if he put a gun in your face and said he was, as he was shaking you down for whatever change you had in your pockets'. We all chuckled a bit.

    We got a bit further into the shoe. We toned it way down, myself and her and another. It got to that point where the shoe would do the complete opposite of what everyone thought and then when you went against what you really wanted, that would of course be the result. In other words, extremely frustrating and not pretty.

    We are further into the game and the point comes, as it always does, where Mr. Wonderful is almost wiped out-frustrated and cussing anything and everything. He ordered some kind of drink and it was just coming when he apparently had his last chips up on that proverbial 'Hail Mary' we all know too well. He was on the Players and those that were wagering including myself and her, had ours on the Bankers. His side had a natural and we lost. He made this huge scene over it, I mean huge. It's all good, we all do at times. She was just sitting there letting hands past, not saying anything. Mr. Wonderful goes, Chop-Chop coming up and mumbles something about #8 Orange Chicken to go. Sure enough, he is right. Does it once again, mumbles something about #6 House Special Fried Rice. He is right, wins again. Now she is snickering out the left side of her face. I am in last base and she is next to me. Mr. Wonderful was in the middle of the table, two seats to the right of her. I knew she was cooking something up, I know how she is too well. Mr. Wonderful does the exact same thing maybe 2 if not 3 more times making up the fictitious items from the proverbial Chinese restaurant menu relating to his wagering.

    She throws up a few hundred on the same side as Mr. Wonderful and of course the chop stopped and it went to a double for whatever side it was. Of course, Mr. Wonderful blames her for suddenly coming in and wagering on 'his knowledge and prediction' something along those lines--whatever. So help me God, I knew something was coming. So she said, 'if you knew I would jinx the hand or whatever you call it--why did you keep your wager up there'? He said, 'cause I didn't have time to pull it down before the dealer came out with the cards'. Completely erroneous, the dealer dealing is meticulous about calling 'no more bets' and swiping his fingers like three times or more across the felt before dealing. Meticulous about that. So, Mr. Wonderful lets go with a, 'care to tell us what side for the next wager Miss Know-It-All'? She laughs along with most of the table. Dealer says the normal, 'come on guys let's all be friendly' statement.

    Then she throws up a whole stack of her green, probably a good $1,500 to $1,800. Table max is $2k per played spot at that casino. Mr. Wonderful says, 'maybe I should go opposite you, so I can pay for my take out food when I go home'. That was it, sent her over the top. She pulled down her wager and lit up a cigarette. Mr. Wonderful is like, 'what's wrong baby--chicken, you turn chicken'? She looks at the dealer, who we all know pretty well and he is one of the most informal and best dealers there. She says, 'you don't mind if I cuss right'. The dealer says, 'absolutely not, it is a casino we are all adults, just don't cuss at the floor people, your good'.

    She turns to Mr. Wonderful and says, 'It's going to be a f***ing streak--you hear that, in perfect English unlike what you speak with your bloody s*** this and your bloody s*** that'. She pushes up two stacks on whatever side she originally wanted and then the dealer breaks it down and gives her back what she was over on the table max. Mr. Wonderful puts up about $100.00 on the opposite side. Now we are all on the side she was on and to tell you the truth, it wasn't a bad wager as it just came off the long chop and made a single repeat and trying for the 3rd one. I would have been reluctant as heck if it was the 4th or 5th one, but not the 3rd. I threw up about $500 with a few nickels out for the dealers. She threw a few nickels up for the dealer and everyone else did also. The dealer watching at an empty blackjack table next to us, says 'better make that one for your couple hundred tip'. He was on Players and Players returned a 6 and the dealer flips the cards over for the Bankers with a 7 showing on top. He is extremely slow and starts to move it and is covering the corner and we can see the 4 line side, it's a 9 or 10. And when the dealer uncovers it, the 9 was there. Tie hand, and she goes, come on lets go--lets get the hand on. Mr. Wonderful has his hand out and on top of his bet. Dealer said, last call. Mr. Wonderful looks confused and she said, lets go. Everyone left their wagers up on what they had and everyone wanted the same thing once again. Mr. Wonderful removes his hand and the dealer deals. Players returns a Natural 8 and Mr. Wonderful pumps his fist into the air, smug as anything. Banker cards get flipped and exposes a 9. Dealer has the bottom card perfectly secured underneath. She goes, '6 and then a 7 and now an 8 and a 9. No doubt, can't be anything else'. And then the color from the monkey is exposed. It was a natural 9.

    She turns to Mr. Wonderful and says, 'Chinese and Vietnamese are different, same flag same colors but we only have one f***ing star like this' and then she unsnaps the top button on her jeans and pulls her pants about half way down her butt showing off her elaborate gold star in the small of her back onto her butt and the huge colorful dragon surrounding it. The whole table cracks up and Mr. Wonderful looks like a young boy that just saw a Playboy center fold-out for the first time in his life. She high fives everyone and the dealer as well. Mr. Wonderful is a bit quite for a change.
     

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