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.48% vs .25% Blackjack HA.................

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by Hugo Hackenbush, Aug 2, 2016.

  1. Hugo Hackenbush

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    Hey All...

    I was looking at Wizard of Odds BJ table survey..... I usually plat 2 deck BJ, but next trip I will also play the 6 deck as it offers RSA and surrender along with any 2 card doubling and DAS....(but H17)

    Some casinos have (Aria and Cosmo) the 6 deck with all the good above stated conditions and a HA of .48...

    They also have 2 deck with any double and DAS but no resplit aces or surrender.... HA is .25.. but S17....

    I like the opportunity to surrender, but I'd have to go with more decks and the H17..

    I'm thinking that .48 vs .25 isn't too big a deal for it to deter me from the 6 deck.....And sometimes a little streak is more common in 6 deck.... (but a streak can work both ways....

    Do you think the difference between .25 vs .48 makes a real difference ? Thanks
     
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    I'm not a huge BJ player, but based on the fact that one game is nearly double the HA of the other, I'm gonna say yes.
     
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    If you play basic strategy perfectly, you will be able to play almost twice as many hands in the pitch game at the same betting level, on average. That's pretty good, yeah?

    If you play not-so-perfectly, the additional HA contribution from your errors will quickly grow to swamp the small starting difference, and so the two games will end up much closer. In that case, you should certainly just pick the one you like better.
     
  4. Hugo Hackenbush

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    Why would I be able to play twice as many hands with the 2 deck? Does the S17 vs H17 make that large increase ?
     
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    Because the HA translates into how much money you will lose in theory.

    So in theory you will lose money half as fast on the 2 deck game and therefore be able to play twice as long with the same amount of money.
     
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    So then the 2 deck game even with no surrender but S17 is a significantly better option then the 6 deck H17 game with surrender..... That must be why there is $100 minimum on the 2 deck and a $50 minimum on the 6 deck.....

    Thanks,,,, this is important info for people trying to use every opportunity for a chance to win.... I bet most didn't know this. They may figure like me that .25 vs .48 HA is no big deal.... thanks
     
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    Everything makes a difference. Taking 6 decks and H17 is not worth being allowed surrender.

    But, as in all of these conversations, you are taking a mathematical losing bet either way, so play how you like.

    Multiply .0023 by the bet by the number of hands per hour and by the number of hours.

    4 hours, 100 a hand, 60 hands an hour, it'll cost you about 55 bucks theoretically. Is that significant? That's up to you.
     
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    I like that DD games have way fewer swings than a 6-deck shoe. Sure, I miss out on longish winning streaks, but I also have the comfort of knowing that, even with a bad deck, I'll get a fresh shuffle in just a few hands... and I have never found any reasonable impact of counting a 6-deck game... the count has to get so high in order to justify an increased bet that such a bet has to be noticeably larger than your base-bet (in order to offset the rarity of the occurrence).
    Frankly, I will play a two-deck with DAS and H17 before I'd play a 6-deck H17 with DAS+surrender+RSA.
     

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